Sunday Morning after a rough Saturday night
Decadence and student party houses go together like pizza and beer. Take Phillips Street for instance (and the Amherst Redevelopment Authority could), scene of a major disturbance last weekend--specifically 33 Phillips Street, where 11 arrests occurred on Saturday night starting as early as 6:46 PM.
The house is owned by STEPHAN GHARABEGIAN under protection of a Limited Liability Partnership KNIGHT PROPERTIES LLC (with his wife, Angela.)
In addition to this party house the pair own three others on Phillips Street (#11, #37, #45) thus making a total of 4 out-of-nine, almost half the housing for a street the ARA consultant deemed "decadent".
Color schematic of the Gateway area showing properties with decadent conditions (Phillips Street, where all but one wins the prize)
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To: Larry Kelley
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 8:43 pm
Subject: towns reputation...
Hi Larry,
My teen daughter had a soccer game on Sunday on the UMass campus against a team from Maine. As we waited for a game against a Rhode Island team to end, I heard the out of towners talking. They were going on about how disgusting it was on their way to campus and said they "would NEVER send their kids to school there." They were talking about the party remnants, beer cans, trash, etc. I started to defend our town and explain the Hobart mess and just stopped. It isn't just that weekend, and we all see it. I was actually embarrassed and didn't say another word. Do you think sharing this with someone at UMass or the town manager would make any difference at all?
Mary
Let's hope Mary...let's hope.
Let's hope Mary...let's hope.
Thank you for covering this, Larry. In addition to unethical real estate investors and inattentive property managers, UMass Amherst is also responsible for the decay in property value and quality of life. This includes their refusal to deal with excessive traffic down nearby residential roads, slum rentals popping up like weeds, noise violations and vandalism. Why are responsible homeowners forced to pay excessive property taxes to account for the issues UMass should be addressing. UMass is a local business and should take responsibility for its impact on the community. How much property tax does UMass pay? Not one penny. I commend you for this story and coverage.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome. Stay tuned...
ReplyDeleteCan we complain about the expected traffic for next Friday???
ReplyDelete(I'd better start my own blog as I seem to have a lot of topics I want *you* to address!
This includes their refusal to deal with excessive traffic down nearby residential roads, slum rentals popping up like weeds, noise violations and vandalism.
ReplyDeleteLarry, correct me if I am wrong, but does not the Town of Amherst have full jurisdiction over Amherst land? Doesn't Bonnie, et al, work for the town?
So, like, why is UMass responsible for any of this? It seem to me that the Amherst government is inepte and incompetent and that is for the voters of Amherst (and not UMass) to fix.
Almost every decision the Zoning Board of Appeals makes requires "conditions" that protect neighbors from things that happen on the property being developed--downward lighting, trees for noise mitigation, drainage to prevent run off, etc.
ReplyDeleteYou could say the neighbors don't own the property in question and therefore have no "jurisdiction", but those neighbors have a routine right to peaceful use of their property.
It is getting really bad. This morning my husband found a piece of a syringe on our front lawn. We live on Chestnut St. We have a daughter who plays on our lawn. Thankfully, she wasn't the one who found the syringe.
ReplyDeleteLarry, UMass is now a municipality -- that is why the UMPD can provide mutual aid -- and this is like going after Hadley.
ReplyDeleteThis could bet interesting -- and expensive to Amherst...
Providing for adequate road systems to and from your establishment is absolutely the responsibility of the business - not the town. If Home Depot decided to erect a massive commercial building that expected, and was built to, comfortably handle 250 customers plus the appropriate amount of employees per shift, they are responsible for widening the roads, funneling traffic properly from the highway, diverting traffic from residential streets and ensuring a safe flow of traffic to and from their building. If a business expands to serve more than 20,000 customers and never once puts a penny into civil engineering to ensure a safe flow of traffic to and from the organization, that business is unethical, irresponsible and guilty of placing an unfair - and extremely unsafe - burden on the surrounding community. Taxpayers should not be burdened with this cost. The business should be paying for this, whether a mall, WalMart, Home Depot or a major university.
ReplyDeleteWhere did #37 steal the cigarette disposal thingie from??? It's not like anyone living there would purchase anything for the home- They have newspapers up for window coverings!
ReplyDeleteYeah maybe they have a "Welcome to Amherst" street sign up in their bedroom as well.
ReplyDeleteAs a resident of Phillips St. I would like to take this time to thank the Amherst Police Department for helping us out during the year. At times we had many students coming to our house to party (even if nothing was going on) and the Amherst PD was always helpful. Also our house did have private social gatherings and not once did we ever receive a noise complaint. We also would tell our neighbors (who were not undergrad students) about our events. If you would like to comment on these houses please do so individually as I do not know the residents of 33 Phillips and from what I believe the residents of 45 37 and 11 were not arrested this year. Also it may be time for the town to realize that if it were not for UMASS the economy of Amherst may not even have enough money to repair the potholes where Amherst families live while us college students still have to deal with the massive potholes on Phillips St.
ReplyDeleteActually the potholes are bad all over.
ReplyDeleteI noticed a comment on property taxes and as a UMASS student I was hoping to clear something up. When the university tore down Fraternity row property taxes on those houses were about $30,000 in 2005. That land was purchased by the university and the houses were destroyed, the land was then given to the town for free. Please do not complain about UMASS property taxes when all you want to do is tear down its housing. My opinion is to build a fraternity park on the north end of campus and tear down Phillips St. You can remove the students from the area leaving it quiet and all student looking for parties will head up north to the new fraternity houses.
ReplyDeleteActually UMass has not given the former frat row to Amherst or the ARA (of which I am one member of five).
ReplyDeleteIF the zoning change goes through Amherst Town Meeting--that requires a two thirds vote--allowing for a mixed use development to occur at Frat Row, THEN UMass will donate the land to the ARA, or town.
After paying very close attention over this past semester, if it were up to me the ARA would take and flatten all of Phillips Street.
As a former Umass graduate and resident of Phillips St I ask every Amherst resident what your local economy would look like without Umass. If tomorrow Umass were to close its doors how many thousands of people would instantly lose their jobs? Amherst and the surrounding area used to be nothing but farm land. Amherst and its residents are indebted to Umass for providing the townspeople a livelihood.
ReplyDeleteAs a current Amherst resident I ask every UMass student past and present what would UMass look like without Phillips Street?
ReplyDeleteAnswer: A Hell of a lot better!
I hope you and Amherst plan to enact its next radical law of buying houses it does not like and tearing them down without consent of the owner.
ReplyDeleteand no worries as smoker's poles can be purchased for as low as 20 dollars, the newspaper covering the door must be the Daily Collegian paid for out of our tuition fees.
Actually no need for a new radical law, we already have a normal old one called eminent domain.
ReplyDeleteThe university was here long before the residents, including the elderly were here. You will not be able to stop the partying that goes on at this school so either make the best of it or move out and quit complaining. You move to a 25,000+ populated college town, you're going to run into these issues.
ReplyDeleteActually Amherst--the town--was first incorporated in 1759 and UMass first started as a land-grant agricultural college in 1863, over a hundred years LATER.
ReplyDeleteObviously you are not a history major.
I will be the first to admit that Phillips st is not the nicest place. But it is only a tiny part of Amherst. If you kick all of the students off of Phillips st another area will pop up. Partying goes hand in hand with a large public University. (The pros and cons of this are an entirely other debate)
ReplyDeleteIF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT THEN MOVE.
Larry, the residents of Amherst are dependant on Umass and its students. You know this as well as every other towns member. Towns people are not forced to live on Phillips, Fearing, Nutting or any other street. There are plenty of nice areas far from campus that do not have large clusters of student housing where college life occurs. I suggest living in one of those areas if you don't already.
Trying to demonize the very people you rely on for your livelihood is not the way to go about creating positive change.
You got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well...do ya punk?
ReplyDeleteThe ARA has not met in a month, so it's a safe bet neighbors impacted by rowdy, obnoxious student behavior will be attending our meeting tomorrow at 5:00 PM at Town Hall.
Why don't you show up and spout your immature drivel during public comment period.
Go ahead, make my day.
Well Larry,
ReplyDeleteGood news is the ARA may very well end up taking over Phillips Street and all of the other areas that they find to be a nuisance to the town. You can have them and do what you please.
Bad news is there is no way you are going to stop all of the rowdy, obnoxious students. Every Fall thousands upon thousands will descend upon Amherst and do the same. So in the end, if it all bothers you that much, you lose. I don't know if you have children or younger relatives, but for someone who hates students so much it would certainly be a shame if the ended up in trouble for the "unreasonable partying" you spend so much time complaining about, when they are in college somewhere.
Now I certainly believe there are students who go out of their way to be obnoxious and deserve to be arrested and dealt with in a manner that will hopefully change their behavior. On the other hand though, you're bashing of every single party that students have makes me laugh.
Maybe you, as the mature adult, should work on other manners to change the behavior. If you took the time maybe you would see that not every student is here to make the life of Amherst residents miserable. I know me and many of my friends voluntarily participated in "have a heart" with the UMass police department to work on making sure students walking from SW did not cut through residential neighborhoods or leave trash around. If people like you did not spend all of your time talking badly about students then just maybe more students would feel compelled to work with you so that they can still live the life that college kids everywhere will continue to live, while doing more to not disrupt you, the residents.
Larry, calling what I have to say drivel and immature is part of your problem. You are quick to judge and be dismissive of anyone who disagrees with you. You response to my post was childish and had nothing to do with the topic at hand or our conversation via posts.
ReplyDeleteLarry, thats immature behavior.
Thats the inability to acknowledge certain facts such as the Amherst economy is reliant on Umass and its students.
Now in the matter of attending tomorrows meeting, I would indeed love to however as previously stated I graduated from Umass and hence do not live there anymore.
Talk to me when your ready to have a mature adult conversation instead of just changing topic and quoting Dirty Harry
I only talk badly about students who act badly. And maybe the PR spokesperson who defends their childish behavior by telling lifelong multigenerational residents "If you do not like it then move."
ReplyDeleteLarry, again you are acting immature. This time with name calling via calling me the PR spokesmen for childish behavior.
ReplyDeleteWhen you write "I only talk badly about students who act badly"
Can you please provide me with an explanation of what "Badly" means. Its very vague, don't you think?
Also recognition to the last anonymous poster. I agree with many things you posted.
Geeze there Aaron, I thought you were the last Anon poster. Oh I forgot--you have fortitude to identify yourself. Gotta wonder how many "Aaron's" there are in the world today.
ReplyDeleteHouses only make my "Party house of the weekend" when neighbors (trying to sleep) call the Amherst Police Department because of rowdy behavior which often includes noise, littering, vandalism, underage drinking, public urination, intoxication, etc.
Well thank you for the backhanded compliment. Again you try to belittle me because I have views that differ from yours. Not very mature of you.
ReplyDeletePlease tell me which house on Phillips st is not occupied by undergraduate or graduate students? I am genuinely curious to know.
Again I can not say it any better then what the last anonymous person posted about the need for both groups to get along.
Larry you need to be a realist.
I can't tell you off the top of my head which house he owns but I met him at the Gateway Visioning Process final night.
ReplyDeleteHe came up with a Plan B to do nothing at all with the former Frat Row except keep it a park called "King Philip Park" (a history joke and play on the street name. He was proud that he spelled King Philip's name correctly)
Click on the link I posted: 'Color schematic of the Gateway area showing properties with decadent conditions'. Probably the only one not listed as "decadent" belongs to him.
Because when you own something you tend to take better care of it--even if everything around you is a slum.
Some day maybe you will figure that out.
Larry, look at my last post and then reread your response.
ReplyDeleteNo Umass student owns property on Phillips st and I never claimed one did.
My question was for you to name a house on Phillips st that is not being occupied by undergrad or graduate students.
To my knowledge all of the houses on Phillips St are occupied by undergrad and grad students which is why I asked you to tell me which one wasn't.
The one house not marked as being decadent on your blog was the house next to mine when I lived on Phillips st.
That house like all the others was OWNED by a landlord who is not a student at Umass but the people who LIVED in the house were all undergrad and graduate students.
You should really do your homework and make sure you know what your talking about. Words can be dangerous.
As I said, I met an interesting individual who is old enough not to be a student and his significant other who own and occupy a house on Phillips Street.
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah, now that you mention it, that is unique. I should have done an extensive interview with him, starting with the classic question "So how does that make you feel."
Please follow this logic.
ReplyDeleteThere is one house that is not listed as decadent on Phillips according to your records.
That house I know for a fact is rented to undergrad and grad students.
That means the person who you met that you say lives on Phillips st and is not a student lives in a decadent house.
Does that make him a bad person?
No, since he has never been arrested for noise violations that most certainly does not make him a bad person.
ReplyDeleteI grew up in a house in Amherst (on the wrong side of the tracks) that would most certainly have qualified as "decadent" had the ARA consultant perused it all those years ago.
Eminent domain is used to take land so it can be for public use, for example to run utility lines, or for needed transportation right of ways. It is not intended for the "I don't like my neighbor, so I'll take his house."
ReplyDeleteActually it was used extensively in the 1970s for "urban renewal."
ReplyDeleteAnd since UMass is what you could call "urban," and since Phillips Street is in dire need of "renewal"...
Hey Gang....interesting discussion about my old neighborhood! I lived at 41 Philips St during the fall of 1974. I rented a room in the attic. It was not insulated and the snow would blow in......I slept in a down bag and the room got down to 20 F. Great memories.....I paid $75.00 per month. I believe there were 11 renters. The house was built in 1912 and was a mess at that time. I wonder what it looks like now....
ReplyDeleteThe street was actually quiet with little partying. We were too cold!!!!!! My name is also Larry
I meant to say the house was a mess in 1974!!!!
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