tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post7178456863883507687..comments2023-10-17T22:56:42.784-04:00Comments on Only in The Republic of Amherst: A stand up guy comes outLarry Kelleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02614645831526190536noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-87769380957906827562009-07-08T09:23:05.850-04:002009-07-08T09:23:05.850-04:00"the Fanshawe viewpoint shared above - how wo..."the Fanshawe viewpoint shared above - how would YOU like to be judged as a heterosexual male based on what is observed in the average bar across this country?"<br /><br /><br />The "average bar"? <br /><br /><br />THE AVERAGE BAR?!!!!?<br /><br /><br />My friend, the average "straight bar" (if there even is one anymore) would satisfy the savage "appetite" (if one may even call it that) of the avergae gay man for all of about 15 seconds. <br /><br />Sorry, but with all do respect, can you read?!!? We're not voicing our OPINION.<br /><br />But, gay men are. <br /><br />And if you HAVE to deny it, then perhaps it is YOUR behavior that needs to CHANGE.<br /><br /><br />"The documentarian asks the proprietor of a gay sex bath house, "Paul", who had just related some graphic stories of group sexual encounters in the establishment, "Are we just swimming around in a sewer which we're just sort of saying is normal?" <br /><br />Paul was adamant and forthright in his belief that the gay lifestyle is incompatible with happiness and fidelity in human relations, expressing his dissatisfaction with civil unions legislation. "The temptation of other things will always stand in the way of two gay men having a long-term, loving, caring relationship." <br /><br />Now, do I need to copy the statistics AGAIN? Or should I add to them (because I can...)?<br /><br />Or have I made myself, <br /><br />clear?<br /><br />Hmmmm?<br /><br /><br />"My point is that there are many, many different "types" of gay men just as there are many different types of straight men and god forbid if we ALL get painted with the same broad brush based on the behaviors of a select few!"<br /><br /><br />Select few?<br /><br /><br />SELECT FEW?!!! <br /><br /><br />Are you KIDDING me?!!!? <br /><br /><br />"There isn't a "typical gay man" any more than there is a "typical straight man" and to try to squeeze everyone into a small, stereotypical box is showing nothing more than your ignorance (and prejudice) I'm afraid."<br /><br /><br />Ignorance?<br /><br />IGNORANCE?!!?<br /><br />I base my persective on FACTS.<br /><br />Whilst you, my little chickadee, base your perspective on NEED.<br /><br /><br />And with these needs, follow a lot of people... to their hurt, to their suffering, to their death.<br /><br />What a thing to promote as "good".<br /><br /><br />Thank you gay community. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-21703990086030710972009-07-08T00:11:06.442-04:002009-07-08T00:11:06.442-04:00If you consider it a "compliment" but ar...<i>If you consider it a "compliment" but are just not interested, then a simple lack of eye contact will suffice (you don't even need the icy stare).</i><br /><br />Oh, really?!?! Do you have any idea why so many highway rest areas have been closed over the past two decades? Because too many people like me have been damn near raped in them. "Please leave me alone" is fairly clear and not subtle. "Which one of you are willing to die for your friend's fun" is less so but effective...<br /><br /><i> If, however, you ARE interested, and yet uncomfortable with those feelings, </i><br /><br />Bullshit. I have had enough of this "everyone is gay" stuff. I don't find other men attractive, I am as certain of this as that if I went out into a downpour, I would get wet.<br /><br />I am tolerant of the fact that others differ from me, and THAT was what I meant by appreciating the complement -- not unlike being respectful of someone else's religion. You are not going to intimidate me as long as it is clear that I am not available - I am not trying to tease, mind you, but I don't care what people think of me.<br /><i><br />And re: the Fanshawe viewpoint shared above - how would YOU like to be judged as a heterosexual male based on what is observed in the average bar across this country? </i><br /><br />If I go into a gay bar, that is a different story. (Although I would appreciate truth in advertising and it advertising itself as such.) But much as a woman has certain expectations for business situations, shouldn't I?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-84559037142590326092009-07-07T20:46:39.335-04:002009-07-07T20:46:39.335-04:00If you consider it a "compliment" but ar...If you consider it a "compliment" but are just not interested, then a simple lack of eye contact will suffice (you don't even need the icy stare). If, however, you ARE interested, and yet uncomfortable with those feelings, then that is a "problem" of an entirely different nature & perhaps one worth looking at.<br /><br />And re: the Fanshawe viewpoint shared above - how would YOU like to be judged as a heterosexual male based on what is observed in the average bar across this country? Or in Fort Lauderdale during Spring Break? My point is that there are many, many different "types" of gay men just as there are many different types of straight men and god forbid if we ALL get painted with the same broad brush based on the behaviors of a select few! There isn't a "typical gay man" any more than there is a "typical straight man" and to try to squeeze everyone into a small, stereotypical box is showing nothing more than your ignorance (and prejudice) I'm afraid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-65104819889458348592009-07-07T18:31:49.072-04:002009-07-07T18:31:49.072-04:00Hmmm...taking your argument a little further, are ...<i>Hmmm...taking your argument a little further, are you trying to tell us that you feel threatened and "unsafe" in the company of some gay men?</i><br /><br />No, I just don't like being hit on by gay men. Hey, I appreciate the complement but I am simply not interested.<br /><br />If a woman can say that with just a word or icy stare, why shouldn't I be able to do so?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-56041809271346739472009-07-07T17:53:12.276-04:002009-07-07T17:53:12.276-04:00"I would hazard a guess that instead of feeli..."I would hazard a guess that instead of feeling threatened/unsafe you instead feel uncomfortable with who they are, and what they represent, and THAT is where your discomfort comes from."<br /><br /><br />LOL.<br /><br />From above:<br /><br />"Simon Fanshawe is a (gay) writer and broadcaster who created the documentary "The Trouble With Gay Men" after becoming increasingly alarmed at the shallowness and destructiveness of the "gay lifestyle." The film, made for BBC 3 television, questions the emotional and psychological immaturity, narcissism, nihilism and self-destructive tendencies of many in the homosexual community."<br /><br /><br />So let me say once again:<br /><br />FLUSHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-57213191670938892182009-07-07T16:10:30.889-04:002009-07-07T16:10:30.889-04:00Hmmm...taking your argument a little further, are ...Hmmm...taking your argument a little further, are you trying to tell us that you feel threatened and "unsafe" in the company of some gay men? And, if so, why? I would hazard a guess that instead of feeling threatened/unsafe you instead feel uncomfortable with who they are, and what they represent, and THAT is where your discomfort comes from. That is not "harrassment" on their part but rather a "phobia" on your part.<br />(and please get over yourself re: feeling "desired" by gay men...do you also feel like every heterosexual female who crosses your path "wants" you? I doubt it.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-14075511541836074572009-07-07T14:40:49.559-04:002009-07-07T14:40:49.559-04:00"Straight" men feel the threat of being ...<i>"Straight" men feel the threat of being in the company of a gay man</i><br /><br />Two words: Sexual Harassment<br /><br />Like most straight women receiving undesired attention from a straight man, straight men receiving undesired attention from a gay man feel "threatened."<br /><br />By your analogy, any woman not interested in the man attempting to charm her pants of secretly wants to have wild passionate sex with him right there on the floor. Really....<br /><br />If the gays want to be equal, that includes the equal obligation not to make sexual advances to those not interested in them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-51870163084329980062009-07-07T13:44:37.383-04:002009-07-07T13:44:37.383-04:00"Not sure who this Anon is who keeps spouting..."Not sure who this Anon is who keeps spouting fringe "science"..."<br /><br /><br /><br />Fringe science?<br /><br /><br />FRINGE SCIENCE?!!!?<br /><br /><br />Are you KIDDING me?!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-50331069537832465952009-07-07T13:01:17.941-04:002009-07-07T13:01:17.941-04:00Not sure who this Anon is who keeps spouting fring...Not sure who this Anon is who keeps spouting fringe "science" in support of his anti-gay rants, but he (or she?) would have fit in quite well back in the time of the Crusades. Were you maybe a priest back then, in a previous life, sentencing countless non-believers to a gruesome death? And what is your "ultimate answer" to the millions of gay folks in our midst today? Quarantine them? Arrest them? Or maybe just toss 'em in a gas chamber and be done with it? Unreal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-45355034622934697922009-07-07T12:33:06.706-04:002009-07-07T12:33:06.706-04:00From the American College of Pediatricians:
htt...From the American College of Pediatricians:<br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.acpeds.org/index.cgi?cat=24&BISKIT=1059186137&CONTEXT=cat<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Are children reared by two individuals of the same gender as well adjusted as children reared in families with a mother and a father? Until recently the unequivocal answer to this question was "no." Policymakers, social scientists, the media, and even physician organizations1, however, are now asserting that prohibitions on parenting by homosexual couples should be lifted. <br /><br />In making such far-reaching, generation-changing assertions, any responsible advocate would rely upon supporting evidence that is comprehensive and conclusive. <br /><br />Not only is this not the situation, but also there is sound evidence that children exposed to the homosexual lifestyle may be at increased risk for emotional, mental, and even physical harm.<br /><br />Research data<br /><br />Heterosexual parenting is the normative model upon which most comprehensive longitudinal research on childrearing has been based. Data on long-term outcomes for children placed in homosexual households are very limited and the available evidence reveals grave concerns. Those current studies that appear to indicate neutral to favorable results from homosexual parenting have critical flaws such as non-longitudinal design, inadequate sample size, biased sample selection, lack of proper controls, and failure to account for confounding variables.2,3,4 Childrearing studies have consistently indicated that children are more likely to thrive emotionally, mentally, and physically in a home with two heterosexual parents versus a home with a single parent. 5,6,7,8,9 Therefore, the burden is on the proponents of homosexual parenting to prove that moving further away from the heterosexual parenting model is appropriate and safe for children.<br /><br />Risks of Homosexual Lifestyle to Children<br /><br />Violence among homosexual partners is two to three times more common than among married heterosexual couples. 10,11,12,13,14 Homosexual partnerships are significantly more prone to dissolution than heterosexual marriages with the average homosexual relationship lasting only two to three years. 15,16,17 Homosexual men and women are reported to be inordinately promiscuous involving serial sex partners, even within what are loosely-termed "committed relationships." 18,19,20,21,22 Individuals who practice a homosexual lifestyle are more likely than heterosexuals to experience mental illness,23,24,25 substance abuse,26 suicidal tendencies,27,28 and shortened life spans.29 Although some would claim that these dysfunctions are a result of societal pressures in America, the same dysfunctions exist at inordinately high levels among homosexuals in cultures were the practice is more widely accepted.30 Children reared in homosexual households are more likely to experience sexual confusion, practice homosexual behavior, and engage in sexual experimentation. 31,32,33,34,35 Adolescents and young adults who adopt the homosexual lifestyle, like their adult counterparts, are at increased risk of mental health problems, including major depression, anxiety disorder, conduct disorder, substance dependence, and especially suicidal ideation and suicide attempts.36<br /><br />Conclusion<br /><br />The research literature on childrearing by homosexual parents is limited. The environment in which children are reared is absolutely critical to their development. Given the current body of research, the American College of Pediatricians believes it is inappropriate, potentially hazardous to children, and dangerously irresponsible to change the age-old prohibition on homosexual parenting, whether by adoption, foster care, or by reproductive manipulation. This position is rooted in the best available science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-69984217838556801002009-07-07T10:08:01.974-04:002009-07-07T10:08:01.974-04:00Reminds me of the classic journalistic ambush ques...Reminds me of the classic journalistic ambush question:<br /><br />"So when did you stop beating your wife?"Larry Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614645831526190536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-75061307327615494472009-07-07T09:54:49.868-04:002009-07-07T09:54:49.868-04:00"At one point Fanshawe interviews a homosexua..."At one point Fanshawe interviews a homosexual man who has "done all the drugs" and now campaigns in gay clubs against the growing use of crystal methamphetamine. The man, who could not be identified for fear of reprisals from drug dealers, said that crystal meth is preferred in the gay community because it reduces the inhibitions and allows sex to be brought to an "animalistic" level "devoid of emotion." The film says that one in five gay men in London use crystal meth."<br /><br /><br />Savagery.<br /><br />Do we need this kind of influence in our societies?!!? <br /><br />Say yes, I dare you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-19010959783049407322009-07-07T09:18:00.178-04:002009-07-07T09:18:00.178-04:00CONT:
"Vast amounts of our leisure time ar...CONT:<br /><br /><br /><br />"Vast amounts of our leisure time are organised around sex, straight or gay. But what gay men have done is organise our identity around sex. And that is corrosive. And to make things worse, promiscuity has become the norm." <br /><br />The documentarian asks the proprietor of a gay sex bath house, "Paul", who had just related some graphic stories of group sexual encounters in the establishment, "Are we just swimming around in a sewer which we're just sort of saying is normal?" <br /><br />Paul was adamant and forthright in his belief that the gay lifestyle is incompatible with happiness and fidelity in human relations, expressing his dissatisfaction with civil unions legislation. "The temptation of other things will always stand in the way of two gay men having a long-term, loving, caring relationship." <br /><br />Fanshawe says he is horrified at the lack of emotional involvement and at the willingness of men to engage in "unsafe sex." The film includes statistics that show the deadly consequences of the homosexual lifestyle. One in nine gay men in London is HIV infected and new cases of HIV have doubled in the city in five years. Incidences of syphilis have increased in the same time period 616 per cent. <br /><br />"Unsafe" sex, he says, is not the only way in which gay men are self destructive. "If there's a new drug, gay men will find it and take it," he states. <br /><br />At one point Fanshawe interviews a homosexual man who has "done all the drugs" and now campaigns in gay clubs against the growing use of crystal methamphetamine. The man, who could not be identified for fear of reprisals from drug dealers, said that crystal meth is preferred in the gay community because it reduces the inhibitions and allows sex to be brought to an "animalistic" level "devoid of emotion." The film says that one in five gay men in London use crystal meth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-1571652596258872562009-07-07T09:17:45.961-04:002009-07-07T09:17:45.961-04:00So you think gay is ok?
From the experiences of ...So you think gay is ok?<br /><br /><br />From the experiences of a gay man:<br /><br /><br />http://current.com/items/89303964_gay-lifestyle-a-sewer-of-casual-degrading-sex-drug-abuse-and-misery.htm<br /><br /><br /><br />LONDON, September 10, 2008 - A British homosexual journalist admits that his documentary on the London gay scene is likely to "burn every bridge in the gay world I've got." <br /><br />Simon Fanshawe is a writer and broadcaster who created the documentary "The Trouble With Gay Men" after becoming increasingly alarmed at the shallowness and destructiveness of the "gay lifestyle." The film, made for BBC 3 television, questions the emotional and psychological immaturity, narcissism, nihilism and self-destructive tendencies of many in the homosexual community. Fanshawe says he wants homosexual men to "grow up" and get beyond their state of "extended adolescence." <br /><br />Fanshawe, who was involved in the early homosexualist political movement, says, "We've fought discrimination and prejudice, only to wreck ourselves with drugs and wild sex." <br /><br />"We're hooked on vanity, and regard older men with contempt. Despite AIDS we're still chasing the ultimate sexual high and what's more are determined to wreck ourselves on designer drugs. We're happy to assist the straight world in keeping alive the image of all gay men as limp-wristed queens." <br /><br />He says that he has recently "started to worry" about the ways in which "gay liberation is celebrated" in his hometown of Brighton, a major centre of the homosexual subculture. At the annual "Mr. Gay" beauty pageant, which he describes as a "pathetic display of self-delusion", Fanshawe tells a contestant, "I'm old enough to remember when all those women were fighting against Miss World...What we're all saying about ourselves is that actually to be really gay, properly gay, what you've got to be is cute, and young." <br /><br />"Extreme vanity" he says, has been "sewn into gay culture." It "is now so mainstream in the gay community that otherwise intelligent young men are happy to be treated as sex objects on a demeaning meat rack." <br /><br />Gay men, he says, are so "hardwired" towards finding casual sexual encounters, some going as far as plastic implants to enhance their appearance, that finding genuine intimacy is "practically impossible."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-80403911597728539432009-07-07T09:06:29.296-04:002009-07-07T09:06:29.296-04:00"Straight" men feel the threat of being ..."Straight" men feel the threat of being in the company of a gay man."<br /><br /><br />With all do respect, I don't think you speak for all of any group.<br /><br /><br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-70521263455793463662009-07-07T09:02:38.836-04:002009-07-07T09:02:38.836-04:00"Give it a rest and check yourselves, and you..."Give it a rest and check yourselves, and your closets. Gay is okay!!!!!!!"<br /><br /><br /><br />See how easy it was for you to admit that? Now, why can't Larry voice his opinion in the same way?<br /><br />Larry, is gay okay or not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-80910900111057319412009-07-07T08:20:15.233-04:002009-07-07T08:20:15.233-04:00"Straight" men feel the threat of being ..."Straight" men feel the threat of being in the company of a gay man. I think they are afraid of their own sexuality. Each and every one of us is born with the prospect of being Gay, some more than others. Come on, this is 2009 and it is America, home of the free. Give it a rest and check yourselves, and your closets. Gay is okay!!!!!!!<br /><br />Until later...............Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-4425721379243310262009-07-07T08:15:23.393-04:002009-07-07T08:15:23.393-04:00"Most conservatives, particulary those in thi..."Most conservatives, particulary those in this area..." <br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waIfewlf1yM&feature=channel_page<br /><br /><br />LOL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-50292123656033813452009-07-07T00:12:26.333-04:002009-07-07T00:12:26.333-04:00Tom,
Do not mistake the Anon rantings as represen...Tom, <br />Do not mistake the Anon rantings as represenative of the conservative community. Both the extreme right and left wings are equally toxic as demonstrated by comments. We conservatives tend to be respectful towards differing opinions, for the most part. Most conservatives, particulary those in this area look at government waste and preserving individual rights. Many of us believe in gay marriage, as state marriage is a contract, a contract one has to pay the state to enter into, this all should partake in. We look at innefficient and bloated state government as the overarching problem, not the gals next door driving a Subie. Please remember a conservative is not a Republican. We practice restraint and moderation, and enjoy healthy and vigorous debate. <br /><br />Ryan MorseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-17243304800580680762009-07-06T20:30:12.086-04:002009-07-06T20:30:12.086-04:00As you can probably tell I keep my moderating to a...As you can probably tell I keep my moderating to an absolute minimum: No libel, spam, double posts, or threats of violence.<br /><br />And yeah, if things get really out of hand I can track (or have friends who can.)Larry Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614645831526190536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-19938667696367194532009-07-06T20:16:40.086-04:002009-07-06T20:16:40.086-04:00Larry Kelley?
Flush.Larry Kelley?<br /><br /><br /><br />Flush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-34058093235338633772009-07-06T20:07:08.522-04:002009-07-06T20:07:08.522-04:00Looks like you've got a tiger by the tail on t...Looks like you've got a tiger by the tail on this one, Larry...good luck "moderating" THIS thread!Realistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-6937361222338433622009-07-06T19:08:18.146-04:002009-07-06T19:08:18.146-04:00"Behind the comments of Ed and others on gay ..."Behind the comments of Ed and others on gay marriage, there's actually a serious strategic political issue, one that those of us who support gay marriage need to think about: do we really want this to become a federal constitutional issue, a la abortion in Roe v. Wade?"<br /><br /><br />Yeah, because you know how close you are to losing:<br /><br /><br /><br />Gay rights advocates will almost certainly continue to file lawsuits at the state level. It remains to be seen, however, if this legal battle will migrate to the federal courts, where the issue would be whether the U.S. Constitution guarantees gay and lesbian couples the right to wed. Filing such a claim at the federal level entails great risk for the gay marriage movement, since it would give the U.S. Supreme Court the ultimate say on the issue. An unfavorable outcome in the high court would prevent gay couples from arguing for a right to same-sex marriage under the U.S. Constitution, leaving only state constitutions, and thus state courts, as the only means by which same-sex couples could secure a constitutional right to same-sex marriage. <br /><br />Although it is impossible to predict how the high court would rule on a same-sex marriage claim, there are clues. Given their dissenting opinions in Lawrence, it seems likely that Justices Scalia and Clarence Thomas would vote against a constitutional right to same-sex marriage. Based on their generally conservative views, the two most recently appointed justices, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, also appear likely to vote against such a right. But Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, David Souter and John Paul Stevens, who have voted in favor of gay rights claimants in every gay rights case they have considered, may be more likely to vote for the right to same-sex marriage.<br /><br />Such a case may be likely to turn, then, on Justice Kennedy, whose vote is difficult to predict. On the one hand, he showed some sympathy with the gay rights movement in Lawrence. On the other hand, he emphasized in Lawrence that the right of gay and lesbian couples to engage in intimate conduct is a far cry, as a constitutional matter, from a right to same-sex marriage. <br /><br />It is impossible to predict whether or when the Supreme Court will consider the constitutionality of gay marriage - or whether a change in the composition of the court in the coming years might influence the decision to take such a case. In the meantime, it is nearly certain that state courts will continue to wrestle with this question.<br /><br /><br />May god stop them, amen and amen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-23895949362511135612009-07-06T19:00:02.477-04:002009-07-06T19:00:02.477-04:00Our Court system is a co-equal branch of governmen...<i>Our Court system is a co-equal branch of government</i><br /><br />_Plessy v. Ferguson_<br /><br />_Dred Scott_<br /><br /><br />Be careful of asking for dictators lest you get them. And read Marshall's decision before you start talking about "equal protection" because she never used that in justifying her decision.<br /><br />Oh, and ladies who don't want guys watching you shower in the locker room - Marshall said that you don't have that right either. She interpreted the 1975 State ERA amendment to mean that no distinction may be made between men and women....Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5035949355013113578.post-82437537306637547742009-07-06T18:50:22.898-04:002009-07-06T18:50:22.898-04:00"...cowards who won't even associate thei..."...cowards who won't even associate their names with their own words."<br /><br />AMEN.Alicenoreply@blogger.com